P.M. East 1961-1962 Group W T.V.

Streisand / Television

P.M. East (1961—1962)

Syndicated Nightly 1961—1962


In June 1961, Westinghouse Broadcasting Company began airing a talk show called P.M. East that was meant to compete with The Jack Paar Show (which was a predecessor of The Tonight Show ). Mike Wallace was the host, and Joyce Davidson was his “girl Friday,” as the newspapers described her at the time (she was also married to David Susskind). P.M. East taped in New York at Dumont Studios with no studio audience. The master tapes were air-mailed to participating stations to air several days later. 


For the first year it aired, a half-hour segment called P.M. West followed the East show with Terrence O'Flaherty in San Francisco. Mike Wallace tried to explain the new show before it aired: “It has no regular format, and there will be a great deal of variety on both the East and West portions. You might call it an idea show, or a television magazine … We’ll have a theme every night, but we won’t feel obliged to stick to it entirely if something of special importance turns up.”


The show's talent coordinator, Steve Elster, was the person who heard Streisand sing at the Bon Soir and suggested her for P.M. East.


Al Ramrus — a writer-producer for the show — told biographer René Jordan, “Our show was syndicated, low budget, and, I'm afraid not a very successful rival to Jack Paar's ... One day I needed a singer to round out an upcoming show, and our talent coordinator suggested Barbra Streisand ... I always pre-interviewed guests in order to prepare Mike Wallace for his own on-camera interviews ... I remember [Barbra] was calling from a bar because not only did she not have a phone, but she had no apartment ... The next afternoon she breezed into the Dumont studios for rehearsals, chattering like some adolescent yenta, carrying her giant ring of keys and a few old dresses slung over her back ... Her phrasing was immaculate, every word and every idea crackled with excitement ... The night before, I told her she'd be a star. Now I was sure of it.”


According to an article from 1961, when P.M. East first started production, it aired on six stations on the Westinghouse network and paid the standard fee to its guests: $212 per appearance. By 1962, P.M. East reached audiences on 12 stations in Cleveland, Boston, Pittsburgh, San Francisco and Baltimore, as well as New York, Washington, Los Angeles, Dallas, Portland, Des Moines, and York.

Newspaper ad for PM East and PM West

Mike Wallace wrote: “The reaction to her debut on P.M. East was so enthusiastic, that she became one of our regular guests, appearing on the show more than a dozen times over the next several months.”


The show’s publicist, Don Softness, concurred: “Barbra talked about anything that came into her mind, trying to be somewhat – but not too – outrageous, and build her ‘kookie’ reputation.”


Barbra and Mike Wallace developed a charming but argumentative chemistry together. Wallace wrote, “what I found so striking about Streisand in those days (aside from her singing) was her attitude of supreme self-assurance. I had to keep reminding myself that she was still a kid, a teenager...”


Streisand admitted two years later, “When I started appearing on Mike Wallace's P.M. East show, he used to be fresh with me, so I talked back to him. From the response we got, I found that a lot of people just adored the way I spoke my mind, and was not sweet, and others despised me and thought I was a fresh brat. I was only 19 then.”


In a 1962 interview, Wallace further elaborated on Streisand's charm: “She looked strangely out of place but when she began to sing the studio became hushed. Under the clear lights of the studio, she was a little girl no longer. Her lithe body and extremely expressive hands and arms added to the versatility of her voice that soared effortlessly from a deep-throated timbre to the highest registers.”

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Even actor Dustin Hoffman recalls watching Barbra on television. “Her roommate, whom I was going with, told me Barbra was going to be on a local TV show,” Hoffman stated. “She said, ‘Watch Barbra, she's a good singer.’ So, I watched the show in my one-room apartment, hoping for the worst. Barbra was sitting on a stool, chewing what appeared to be an entire pack of chewing gum, and chewing it loudly, while Mike was interviewing her. I thought, Oh God, is she laying it on. At one point, Mike said, ‘So do you want to sing?’ She said, ‘Yeah, why not?’ in the thickest Brooklyn accent she could muster. About 10 seconds into the song, I got goose bumps and started crying. The sheer power of her talent was something I had never witnessed.”

For more historical context, consider that in 1961, when Barbra Streisand was appearing on P.M. East, she was homeless. She stored her things at friends’ apartments but also kept a regular sleeping schedule. There’s a bit she did with Mike Wallace on the show about her many keys. “These three [keys] are from this apartment I can stay in four days a week,” Barbra explained. Barbra slept on the couch at Don Softness’ office occasionally; and she stored a foldout bed in the shower stall of her pianists’ rehearsal studio, where she also slept sometimes. Eventually she landed at Third Avenue in a $60 a month walkup tenement building which was situated over Oscar’s Salt of the Sea Restaurant.
Joyce Davidson and Streisand on PM East.

Unfortunately, videotapes of P.M. East no longer exist. Like most television shows of that era, it was too expensive to leave costly videotape lying around, so they were recorded over and reused.


Barbra Archives has assembled a list of Streisand’s appearances on P.M. East. There are also rare photos and audio excerpts from some of the shows. The information here was gleaned from digitally archived newspaper searches, bootleg audio, and Streisand biographies and fan magazines. René Jordan’s book (written a mere thirteen years after the program aired) has a very helpful interview with P.M. East ’s writer-producer Al Ramrus. The photo thumbnails accompanying the list are all from the actual P.M. East shows, although not necessarily the show they're included with.

Streisand sits on the piano as she sings a song on PM East.

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Two photos of Streisand singing on the PM East television show, 1961.
December 1, 1961

Theme: “Just Good Friends”

Guests: Paul Dooley (comedy), Woody Allen (comedy), Lee Evans Trio (piano and trio), Lillian Briggs (singer-trombonist).

Barbra sang “Spring Can Really Hang You Up The Most,” “My Honey's Loving Arms,” and “A Taste Of Honey.”

Joyce Davidson led one segment about food and had smoked foods laid out on a table. Here’s a brief transcript of the conversation in the studio.

Streisand: You know what happens? They get a lot of cancer up there in Iceland.

Briggs: From what?

Streisand: Smoked foods!

Wallace: Barbra, why don't you sing?



December 21, 1961

Theme: “Success”

Guests: David Susskind (producer), Rod Serling (screenwriter-producer), Anthony Quinn (actor), Mickey Rooney (actor), Streisand.

This episode is notorious for Streisand’s interchange with Susskind. He was there to promote his movie, Requiem for a Heavyweight which was written by Serling and starred Quinn and Rooney.

According to P.M. East executive producer Mert Koplin, “We didn’t want the show to develop into a publicity puff for the picture, so I suggested ‘the sweet smell of success’ as a theme. Barbra would open it as a young performer aspiring to glory, and then Susskind’s famous people would come in."

Barbra sang “Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered,” and “Ding-Dong! The Witch Is Dead.”

But once Susskind came on the show “he made no effort to hide his dislike for her,” Koplin said.

Here’s a transcript of their interaction:


Susskind: ...The problem is you. You couldn't consider yourself a master of coherence.


Streisand: Yeah.


Susskind: You do have an extreme —


Streisand: I do say things, maybe, in my own way —


Susskind: Hear me out, it'll only take a second or two.


Streisand: One second.


Susskind: You also have an overabundance of energy. Which is healthy in a performer. The trouble is, maybe analysis will help you a little bit.


Streisand: No. I don't think so.


Later in the show, Barbra went after Susskind:


Streisand: You wouldn't see me when I went up to “Talent Associates.”


Susskind: Because I don't see actors or actresses.


Streisand: None of your people would even let me read or anything. That's why I decided to give up theater, rather than go through that stuff.


Susskind: Probably, at the switchboard, they had difficulty understanding what you wanted.


Streisand: I was right there, no. I talked in sign language and spoke Italian ...


Reflecting on the encounter in 1977, Barbra told Newsdaymagazine, “I once had a big fight on television with David Susskind … He said to me, ‘Why do you sing these obscure songs? How come you don't sing like ‘Night and Day’ and all these great songs by composers?’ It was very accusatory. I wanted my own identity. I wanted to be associated with songs that people really weren't familiar with. Why would I choose a song that they already associated with another performer?”

Streisand on early 1962 PM East television shows.
Burt Lancaster and Barbra Streisand on PM East, 1961.
April 24, 1962

Guests: Burt Lancaster (actor), Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee (actors and civil rights activists), Godfrey Cambridge (stand-up comic), Milt Kamen (stand-up comic), Phil Foster (stand-up comic), Streisand.

On this show (which, incidentally, was on Barbra's birthday) she sang “Nobody Makes A Pass At Me” (from Pins and Needles). She had a funny bit where she read the lyrics out loud to Burt Lancaster before she sang the song.

Producer Mert Koplin said, "One night Burt Lancaster walked out on Mike Wallace in a tantrum about Mike's persistent questions about his temper. After the commercial, with Lancaster gone, everyone on the panel was commiserating with Wallace and telling him that Burt shouldn't have done that. ‘Well, I don't blame him,’ Barbra said. ‘You kept asking him about his temper, so he showed you he had it.’”

Barbra was also presented the “Fanny Brice Award” on this show. For perspective, Streisand had just opened on Broadway in I Can Get It For You Wholesale the month before this show aired, and she was a smash as the character Miss Marmelstein. Ray Stark was trying to get his Fanny Brice musical into production, but there were casting, script, and director stalls. Marty Erlichman and Streisand worked with P.M.’s publicist Don Softness to have this award presented to Barbra on air as a not-so-subtle bid for the role of Brice in Funny Girl. Softness called his friend at The National Association of Gag Writers and asked if they could award Streisand with this honor. “We don’t have a ‘Fanny Brice Award,’” his friend said. “You do now,” Softness said.
Barbra Streisand looks at the Fanny Brice Award that Mike Wallace is bestowing upon her.

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Other P.M. EAST Anecdotes

There are some P.M. East shows that have been written about in various Streisand biographies and fan magazines, but the actual air dates are unknown.

  • “This Is Your Life" — On one P.M. East show, probably one of the 1962 shows, Mike Wallace threw a party for Barbra. Barbra’s mother, Diana Kind, and sister Roslyn Kind appeared on the show. Koplin explained, “We had a little celebration for her, with a cake and flowers. Her mother and her sister were in the show. She had despised the idea to begin with, but once the program started she was moved by it. Barbra hugged her mama with true affection and there was not a dry eye in the studio.”
  • Barbra on publicity — when Mike Wallace suggested that being on P.M. East would help Barbra attract the attention of big-time producers like David Merrick, Barbra retorted: “Now, let's be honest. Those people don't watch television, not the ones that do the hiring. A show like this just gets the public interested in paying the minimum to see me at places like the Bon Soir.”

Wallace, Streisand, and her mother Diana Kind.
Streisand singing on PM East
SOURCES FOR THIS PAGE:

  • “Acceptance By Performers. That’s Most Encouraging Shift for ‘PM’” by Dick Shippy. Akron Beacon Journal, February 2, 1962.
  • The Greatest Star by Rene Jordan, G.P. Putnam's Sons
  • Barbra Now And Then, Number One, Karma Productions
  • Barbra Streisand Music Guide, www.bjsmusic.com, by Mark J. Iskowitz
  • “Look and Listen with Donald Kirkley.” The Sun, Baltimore, June 6, 1961.
  • Streisand: Her Life by James Spada, Ivy Books
  • “Genesis of a Star” by Rafe Chase, All About Barbra No. 41 published by Lynne Pounder
  • “Camera Reveals New Talent” by Frank Langley. April 6, 1962.
  • “The Trouble With Not Being Ingenue” by Joan McKinney. i, April 7, 1963.

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