Guilty 1980 Barry Gibb Album

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Guilty (1980)

Guilty original album cover. Scanned by Kevin Schlenker.

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  • ABOUT THE ALBUM
    • Released September 1980
    • Produced by Barry Gibb, Albhy Galuten & Karl Richardson for Barry Gibb Productions & Karlbhy Productions
    • Recorded at Criteria Studios, Middle Ear, Inc., Miami, FL; Sound Labs Studios, Inc, Hollywood, CA; Mediasound Studios, New York
    • Engineered & Mixed by: Karl Richardson & Don Gehman
    • Assisted by: Sam Taylor (Criteria), Dennis Hetzendorfer (Criteria), Michael Guerra (Criteria), Dale Peterson (Middle Ear), Patrick Von Weigndt (Sound Labs), Carl Beatty (Mediasound) & Robert Shames (Digital Magnetics)
    • Originally Mastered by: Bob Carbone at A&M Records
    • Remastered (2005) by: Stephen Marcussen for Marcussen Mastering, Hollywood, CA
    • Strings Arranged by Albhy Galuten & Barry Gibb
    • Horns Arranged by Albhy Galuten, Barry Gibb & Peter Graves
    • String Conductor: Gene Orloff
    • Executive Producer: Charles Koppelman for The Entertainment Company
    • Photography: Mario Casilli
    • Visual Coordination: Tony Lane
    • 25th Anniversary Edition Package: Art Director—Hooshik Byliss and Mary Maurer
  • CATALOG NUMBERS
    • FC 36750 (1980 LP)
    • FCA 36750 (8-Track Tape)
    • HC 46750 (Half Speed Mastered LP)
    • CK 36750 (CD)
    • MD 36750 (MiniDisc, probably 1992)
    • CN 85155 (2005 DualDisc Remaster — 2-sided Disc)
    • 5205475 (2005 UK version of DualDisc w/ 1 CD + 1 DVD)
    • See Also: Guilty Pleasures (2005 sequel album)



  • CHARTS
    • Debut Chart Date: 10-11-80
    • No. Weeks on Billboard 200 Albums Chart: 49
    • Peak Chart Position: #1 for three weeks
    • Gold: 11/19/80
    • Platinum: 11/19/80
    • 5x Multi-Platinum: 8/9/89

    Gold: 500,000 units shipped

    Platinum: 1 million units shipped


    The Billboard 200 is a ranking of the 200 highest-selling music albums in the United States, published weekly by Billboard magazine.


Tracks


  1. Guilty (Duet with Barry Gibb) [4:27]  ( B. Gibb / R. Gibb / M. Gibb )
  2. Woman In Love [3:54]  ( B. Gibb / R. Gibb )
  3. Run Wild [4:09]  ( B. Gibb / R. Gibb )
  4. Promises [4:22]  ( B. Gibb / R. Gibb )
  5. The Love Inside [5:12]  ( B. Gibb )
  6. What Kind Of Fool (Duet with Barry Gibb) [4:07]  ( B. Gibb / A. Galuten )
  7. Life Story [4:38]  ( B. Gibb / R. Gibb )
  8. Never Give Up [3:44]  ( B. Gibb / A. Galuten )
  9. Make It Like A Memory [7:31]  ( B. Gibb / A. Galuten )


2005 Dual Disc DVD Tracks:


  1. Interview [DVD]
  2. Guilty [DVD]
  3. What Kind of Fool [DVD]
  4. Stranger In a Strange Land [DVD]



* DualDisc contains the original Guilty CD on one side of the disc in Enhanced LPCM Stereo and a DVD on the other side.

About the Album

Streisand poses with The Bee Gees at their concert. PHOTO: BOB SHERMAN

The Bee Gees were a group of three brothers with a distinctive sound: tight R&B harmonies and falsetto vocals. Barry, Robin, and Maurice Gibb were born in England and grew up in Australia. After a string of hits in the 1960s, the brothers broke up, but then rejoined in 1970.  Promoted by their manager and impresario, Robert Stigwood, the Bee Gees ventured into R&B-flavored disco tunes in the mid-70s and hit the big time when they recorded an extremely popular soundtrack album for the 1977 hit movie Saturday Night Fever, starring John Travolta. They had huge hits with “Night Fever” and “How Deep Is Your Love.” In the United States, the album sold 16 million units!


“The Bee Gees were the biggest group in the world,” Barbra Streisand explained. “They had a distinct sound … some great songs with lyrics that were – shall we say – nonlinear.  They kind of sounded like the Chipmunks. It was a very unique but pleasant sound.”


How in the world did a Bee Gee and Barbra Streisand come together?


During the success of Saturday Night Fever, Maurice Gibb remembered that the Bee Gees were asked by a reporter which artist they would most like to produce. “We said, ‘Barbra Streisand.’ Then about a week later, Charles [Koppelman] called and said, ‘I heard in the papers that you’d love to do Barbra.’ So, this is how the Barbra situation came about. She said she was very impressed.”


Charles Koppelman of The Entertainment Company, producer of Barbra’s last three albums, saw the pairing of the Bee Gees and Streisand as “making one plus one equal three.”


So, Streisand checked out the Bee Gees in concert at L.A.’s Dodger Stadium on July 7, 1979 … with 56,000 of their fans!  When Barbra was spotted taking her seat in the left-field stands, the audience roared.

Meanwhile, Koppelman started talks with Robert Stigwood for the Bee Gees’ services.  

Barry Gibb stated, “Obviously they were interested in getting one or two songs, but basically what they wanted in the beginning was just a clear production job. They sent us a bunch of songs they’d planned for her to do. But they just weren’t right for the vision we had of how she should sound; we wanted to get her more into the mainstream and sell more records than she ever had before.”

Koppelman asked for five songs and within two months (October 1979) Barry Gibb and Robin Gibb wrote and recorded demos of Barry singing the songs “Woman In Love,” “Run Wild,” “Promises,” “Life Story,” and an unused song titled “Secrets.”

“When I first heard Barry’s demos, I was blown away,” Koppelman exclaimed. “I said to myself, ‘holy mackerel. I sure hope Barbra will make me forget I ever heard Barry singing these songs.’ Well, that concern lasted about two minutes, until the first time Barbra opened her mouth to sing.”

Robert Stigwood was known to be a tough negotiator, and it’s said he bargained for 100% publishing rights on the songs, plus a large amount of royalties. Stigwood’s logic was that there were three Bee Gees and one Streisand. Streisand at this point is said to have asked, “How much for just one?”

Barry Gibb and his brothers had decided after their big 1979 concert tour to transition into being producers and songwriters. Robin Gibb went to work on an album with soul singer Jimmy Ruffin, and Maurice Gibb took some time off to deal with health issues.

Joseph Brennan, on his meticulous Gibb Songs website, described Barry Gibb’s possible motivation behind producing for Barbra Streisand. He wrote that Barry “had begun to see the contrast between the Bee Gees band and the hired session players. The latter could play exactly what Barry wanted. People had said for years that Barry knew in his head what he wanted each record to sound like. Now he could get it. The Barbra Streisand sessions showed him how the most proficient musicians could carry out whatever the producer wanted.”

That’s not to say that Gibb wasn’t nervous working with Streisand. “We all had heard stories about how tough she is, and she is this enormous star,” he said. “That’s got to intimidate anyone. I didn’t want to do it at first, but my wife told me to do it or she’d divorce me! I even called Neil Diamond to ask what it was like to work with her. He had nothing but glowing reports, so I felt a little less scared.” 
Barry Gibb at the microphone with Barbra Streisand.
Streisand and Barry Gibb mixing in the recording studio.
Meanwhile, Koppelman ordered more songs from Gibb, now producing Streisand without his brothers’ involvement. “When we talked about the collaboration,” Koppelman said, “the idea was to go back to the old Barry Gibb songwriter of years back and all those wonderful old songs – ‘To Love Somebody’ and ‘Massachusetts’ and some great melodies.”

Barry Gibb then quickly wrote four more songs with Albhy Galuten, the man who produced and engineered the Saturday Night Fever album with the brothers. Those songs were “What Kind of Fool,” “Never Give Up,” “Make It Like A Memory” and “Carried Away” (which was not recorded by Streisand, but later by Olivia Newton-John).

“The Love Inside” was written during the 1978 sessions for the Bee Gees album Spirits Having Flown.

And the last song submitted was “Guilty”—in late 1979. It’s the only song on the album written by all the Bee Gees (Barry Gibb, Robin Gibb, and Maurice Gibb). Streisand stated, “I actually said I feel like there should be another kind of – not up-tempo, but a rhythmic [song.]. It had a breezy, almost jazz-like quality that I just loved.” 

Streisand admitted later that “The only song I wasn’t entirely comfortable singing was ‘Woman in Love.’ I thought the lyric wasn’t something that I would say. [Gibb] thought that ‘Woman in Love’ should be the album’s first single. So I agreed to try it, certainly, and it turns out he was right. And it was very popular.”

Gibb expounded by saying it was the lyric “It’s a right I defend / Over and over again” that Streisand questioned. “At first she felt that it was a little bit liberationist,” Gibb recalled, “that it might be a little too strong for a pop song.”

Gibb and his team got to work producing the tracks for Streisand to record to. Barbra had told Barry Gibb, “Just call me when you’re ready for me to sing.”
Streisand laughs in the studio with Barry Gibb.

Gibb’s team was Albhy Galuten and Karl Richardson. Gibb recorded instrumental tracks at the Bee Gees’ studio (Middle Ear in Miami Beach, which closed in 2006). Orchestral parts were added at Criteria Studio in Miami. 


Producer Karl Richardson explained: “We cut the first versions of the tracks at Criteria to take them to Los Angeles so we could capture Barbra singing there, because I believe she was filming a movie at the time. Recording was sort of like a hobby for her at that moment, and we could only get her for so many hours of so many days, originally. So, the decision was to cut the music in Miami, then produce her vocals, then come back to [Miami] do the mix.”


Barry then flew to Los Angeles to record Streisand’s vocals. Gibb estimated that the album took six months of work, with about two weeks of work from Streisand.


“[Streisand] was there a few days while we were working,” said drummer Steve Gadd, who played on all the tracks except one. “She came in to see that all the songs were in the right keys for her to sing. She was very polite and nice – very professional.”


“Barry Gibb’s a real good musician and producer,” Gadd continued. “When we were doing the album, they weren’t talking about making an album. They talk about making a hit record. That’s how they approach it. They put everything under a microscope, and it’s a long process.”


Streisand was used to recording with a live orchestra, but for the Guilty album she sang to Gibb’s pre-recorded tracks. 


“Barbra sings something once and it’s magic,” Gibb said. “You can’t cut into it or mess with it because each time she sings it’s good.”


“We could tell about halfway through that we had something very different than she’d been doing and that it could be an extremely big album,” Gibb stated.


Albhy Galuten agreed. “No question. When she opened her mouth, and we were on the other side of the glass, we were, like, ‘what the fuck?!’”


“As the album progressed,” Charles Koppelman explained, “it became more and more a collective effort between Barbra and Barry. The whole thing kind of evolved into a real team involvement.”


“Working with her turned out to be wonderful,” Gibb confessed. “She wanted my ideas and she gave me a lot of leeway—but she also wanted me to listen to her ideas, which I was glad to do. She was perfectly nice—a true lady in every sense of the word. 


“And she was a hard worker. She’d work from 7 a.m. until late into the night—and during the breaks, she’d be working the script of Yentl. But we did have to lock her up when the food came, because she always wanted to eat. We had to keep her away from the food, so she’d keep singing!”

Barbra Streisand and Barry Gibb (in straw hat).
Spanish picture sleeve of

For the duet, “Guilty,” the production team had to adjust Barry Gibb's vocal. “When we recorded ‘Guilty,’ we’d already cut the track,” Galuten said. “Originally, Barry was not going to do any duets. They talked him into it. So, for his verses, we had to change the key and had worked out modulations to go from one key to another, from verse to chorus, and then overdub the instruments, fit them in, and fly that stuff around to literally create the verses for Barry that were in another key. Wherever Barry sang verses, those were never recorded in that key—they were originally recorded in different keys in different parts with everything but the drums.”


“It took us two weeks to combine the vocal,” Richardson explained. “I spent days in the studio with an oscilloscope and looking at her and the rhythm of the song and moving things in milliseconds because, again, these are rhythmic songs, [sings, emphasizing the beats] ‘and we got nothing to be guil­-ty of…’ and all that stuff. You’ve got to have that nailed. She wasn’t exactly there all the time.”


Galuten added: “Barry’s feeling and his vision is that meter is pretty much on time. There’s a beat and it goes right there. And the same thing with the pitch—you don’t really scoop into pitches, you just…you’re supposed to hit the pitch and nail it. So, in order to adjust Barbra’s vocal so that it met with Barry’s sensibility, we were moving the time—and this was before the days of sampling and being able to move vocals around—with these little tiny offsets and fractions and punch-ins and delays. And doing the same thing with harmonizers to do three or four passes at the beginning of a vocal word so it would hit it right on and not slide up the way Barbra liked to do.”


“I had two machines locking up, and punching a cross-fading machine into the recording machine was a several week process to do that for the entire album,” Richardson recalled. “I had a book of lyric sheets…I think I used a loose-leaf binder that was about six inches thick by the time we got done with the album with all my notes. Every little nuance with ad libs or breaths, because you have to cross them before breaths, and things like that. From a technological perspective, when you listen to Guilty you don’t realize that behind the scenes, a lot of editing was going on.”


The producers took extra care on the song “What Kind of Fool.”  Not originally intended as a duet, they spent months exploring the right balance of Streisand's and Gibb's voices and which lines they would sing. 


Albhy Galuten recalled that “the duets were done after the fact. This record was put together by Charlie Koppelman … It was Barry’s idea to do the record, but it was Charlie’s idea that they should do some duets. Charlie’s probably all along thinking, ‘Barry’s a hot property, we should do some duets, it’ll make the record sell.’ Well, we converted the songs to duets after Barbra was gone. She had already come and sung.”


The drummer “Bernard Lupe” is credited on “Woman in Love,” “What Kind of Fool,” and “Life Story.” Lupe is not a real person – in the days before digital editing and sampling, engineer Albhy Galuten invented a “tape loop” which was lifted from two bars of the song “Night Fever.”  Because their drummer’s father died in the middle of a recording session and they were unable to replace him, the tape loop of his rhythmic drumming was necessary to complete the song.  Galuten reused the loop on the Guilty album’s tracks. 


“Woman in Love”  was first single released from the album. “We and CBS both felt that it was very important for the first single not to be a duet,” Barry Gibb said. “We released the single five weeks before the album to make sure it took hold before everybody was exposed to the combined effort.”


Galuten shared his memories of recording “Make It Like A Memory,”  too.  “When we were recording the song … there’s a long pause [on the chorus] when she sings ‘make it like a…memory,’ and the downbeat is supposed to be on ‘memory.’  I remember doing the demo, it took Barry, like, ten times to get the vocal to come in on time with the downbeat, because there was no time through there. There was no beat going on.  For Barbra, it’s not her natural thing to sing like Michael [Jackson] or Barry rhythmically. In fact, we ended up having to do a lot of fine-tuning and adjustment to get her meter to line up in a way that was, you know, sufficiently rhythmic for Barry. But on ‘Make It Like a Memory,” she did five takes, and on every single one she nailed the downbeat. So, even though Barry has incredible detailed meter and absolute accuracy, Barbra has this intuitive sense of long-time that she knows when to come in based on some aesthetic that is not countable by the rest of us R&B musicians.”


“Streisand albums are always major events, and when she enlists Bee Gee brain Barry Gibb to produce and sing on the album you know the album is going to be doubly popular. Streisand’s vocals have always had the quality of sounding as though she’s in the same room with the listener, and ballads such as ‘Woman in Love’ and ‘The Love Inside’ are her most intimate to date.”

Cash Box review, October 4, 1980


Casual pose by Barry Gibb and Barbra Streisand.

Ultimately, the album and its singles were a worldwide phenomenon for Streisand.  “Woman In Love” reached #1 in five countries, while the “Guilty” single hit #1 in the Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, Australia, New Zealand and the U.K.


The Guilty LP went triple platinum in The Netherlands and Canada, double platinum in Australia, and platinum in the U.K.


In the U.S., the album and single were #1 on the Billboard charts.


Streisand’s Guilty album is her biggest selling album to date — over 5 million units worldwide. 


The original LP package was extremely lush. It had a gatefold design with Mario Casilli's sexy photos of Gibb and Streisand both dressed in white against a white background on the front and back cover. Inside, Columbia included a picture sleeve for the LP with credits on one side and another Casilli photograph on the other.


Charles Koppelman praised Barry Gibb’s work. “He was comfortable in the role of producer, which is one of the reasons everything went so smoothly. If he’d walked in as ‘singer-star’ as opposed to producer, we could have had difficulties.


“You’re dealing with a lot of egos here, mine included. And this wasn’t one song, it was an entire album. But it went much smoother than any of us anticipated. Obviously at times Barbra had some trepidations and at times I’m sure Barry had some concerns. I’m sure Barry was apprehensive at some point that Barbra wouldn’t like the music or that she’d want her vocals too far out and the tracks too far back. I’m sure Barbra at certain times was concerned that she didn’t want a Bee Gee-esque album.  There were a couple of rough spots, but everyone knew the potential and wanted to make it work.”


Streisand remarked, “I’ve always looked back on the Guilty album as one of the easiest, most pleasant recording experiences I’ve ever had. Barry just made the process a delight. Maybe because he’s an artist himself, he understands what it takes to be a producer for another singer.” 


“I gave myself over completely to Barry’s vision,” Streisand admitted, saying that Guilty was an album “I’m very proud of.”


Barry Gibb stated, simply: “I wanted to produce her best-selling album, and I accomplished that.”


Singles

Columbia Records released the following singles from the album:


Jon Peters, unidentified, Barry Gibb, Streisand and Billy Joel  celebrate their Grammy win at the Four Seasons Hotel, 1981.

“Streisand is Streisand and has pretty much always appealed to Streisand fans. The Gibb influence, however, just may move her into some new listening ears … This album is one of the most thoroughly enjoyable of Streisand’s and should also be her most commercially successful since ‘Superman’ in 1977.”

Harry Gregor, “Tracks.” The Santa Fe New Mexican, October 17, 1980


Grammys

WON
  • Best Pop Vocal Performance, Duo or Group - “Guilty” (duet with Barry Gibb) 

NOMINATED
  • Album Of The Year: Guilty
  • Record Of The Year: “Woman In Love” 
  • Song of the Year: “Woman In Love”
  • Best Pop Female Vocal Performance: “Woman In Love”

Album Cover

It was a fluke that Mario Casilli’s photos of Barry Gibb and Barbra Streisand ended up being used on the Guilty album. “I wasn't hired to shoot the cover,” he said. “[Art Director] Tony Lane from Columbia already had an idea for the Guilty cover. He wanted to have her photographed in the studio with a saint on one shoulder and a devil on the other. So when I got to the [recording] session I took some test shots of her and Barry, wearing a white blouse and white slacks. She looked at the shots and said, ‘Let's do more of these.’ We shot for about an hour. It was fun. Sometimes you're lucky enough to ride on a wave. Something happens, and you've got your camera going.”

Tony Lane elaborated about the session: “Mario sent out one of his assistants for some white background paper. We decided to set up a part of the recording studio as a photo studio.”

Outtakes from the Casilli photography session were included as a bonus feature on the 2005 DualDisc version of Guilty.

On a sour note, Gibb’s record company, RSO, filed a legal complaint that it should be paid for the use of Gibb’s likeness on the cover of the album. “It never received payment,” according to Charles Koppelman.
Below:  Click through some of the alternate photographs of Barbra Streisand taken by Casilli for the cover of this album.

SOURCES USED FOR THIS PAGE:



  • Barbra Magazine , Vol. 1, No. 4, 1980.
  • Barbra Streisand’s ‘Guilty’ Turns 40. Anniversary Retrospective by Grant Walters. Albumism.com, September 20, 2020. Retrieved September 20, 2020. https://www.albumism.com/features/barbra-streisand-guilty-turns-40-anniversary-retrospective
  • “Barry Gibb stretches out” by Lynn Van Matre. Detroit Free Press, March 4, 1981.
  • BeeGeepedia. “Stayin’ Alive.” Retrieved July 18, 2018. http://beegees.wikia.com/wiki/Stayin%27_Alive
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  • Billboard Magazine, “The Legend of Barbra Streisand.” December 10, 1983.
  • “Gibb Pleads ‘Guilty’ To Being Streisand Fan – Especially Now” by Paul Grein. Billboard Magazine. February 28, 1981. 
  • Gibb Songs / 1980 by Joseph Brennan. Retrieved July 17, 2018. http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beegees/80.html
  • “He was only a studio drummer, but oh, how that boy could play” by Jack Garner. The News Messenger, January 31, 1981.
  • SiriusXM Barbra Streisand Channel Interstitials. 2016. Retrieved November 19, 2016.
  • “Streisand ready for bar mitzvah” column by Liz Smith. The Decatur Herald, Sunday November 25, 1979.
  • “Streisand Gets Best Int’l Sales in Career.” Cash Box Magazine, December 6, 1980.
  • Ultimate Biography Of The Bee Gees: Tales Of The Brothers Gibb, The by Melinda Bilyeu, Hector Cook, Andrew Môn Hughes. Omnibus Press, January 1, 2011.


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